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How 80’s Punks Found Metal… And Changed it Forever!

Suicidal Tendencies Growing up in Venice in the 80’s and embracing hardcore meant you most likely were down with Suicidal Tendencies. The extended family of this band was called The Suicidal Boyz – some people called us a gang, but I saw it more as a family. Ground zero for all of our activities was Mar Vista Park; this was the place where the Westside punks of all different races would gather before shows to get our drink on. Ric Clayton, the Suicidal Tendencies go-to illustrator, was a legend amongst us young punks because he was someone we looked up to. The first day I went to his house, I thought he would be blasting Discharge or G.B.H., but when I got there he was playing the Motörhead Iron Fist LP. He told me how awesome this band was, and what an influence they had on him and his art, and while I was at it, I also needed to check out a band called Venom). Being the music nerd I was, I went and found out all I could about Motörhead and Venom, and while listening to them, I understood why Ric was so into them – even though they were playing metal, I could hear and feel a punk vibe.

I started to notice hardcore kids all over the States championing these bands, meaning you would see their logos turning up on leather jackets, jeans and t-shirts. Around the same time, I started kicking it with the Suicidal Boyz drop out-turned-metal-head-stoner Mike Roth from Santa Monica. I give him credit for bringing the debut LP’s of Slayer, Metallica, Exciter, Raven, Oz, and Tank  into my reality. We would spend our weekends listening to metal, because it felt more underground then hardcore did at the time. We were not alone in our love of the speed metal riffs; so many punk bands began embracing the metal sound in their songs. Case in point was our very own Suicidal Tendencies – all you have to do is listen to their debut record to hear Grant Estes’ metal guitar solos. Many of us at the time didn’t understand why Mike went and found a long haired dude to play guitar for them, but once we heard him play it all made sense. There were other Venice bands that got the crossover sound right, like No Mercy, Beowülf, Chaotic Noise, and later bands like Cryptic Slaughter.

I moved to San Francisco as a 15 year old in 1984, and this is when and where I saw the punks and metal heads really come together. You had bands like Exodus, Death Angel and Possessed, and clubs like Ruthies Inn that catered to the crossover scene. A good example of this unity could be seen at the last Crucifix show in SF, where members of Metallica were in the house right up front near the stage. The Bay Area had a way more down to earth scene than L.A., so it’s no wonder that speed metal was more popular up there, while down south Hair Metal was Queen. The Bay Area misfits just came together with no judgement – it did not matter if you were a punk, peace punk, hardcore kid or metal head. I know for a fact that my time there gave me a love for metal that I hold to this day. I will never forget seeing Mercyful Fate’s first San Francisco show ever at the Kabuki Theater – it was a madhouse full of metal heads and punks. Then in the mid to late 80’s, Crossover/Thrash/Speedmetal became a genre of its own, with bands like Anthrax, Voivod, DRI, Celtic Frost, Bathory, Discharge, Necros, Void, The Accused, Amebix, Nausea and many fucking more!!!

MOTORHEAD

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VENOM

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Suicidal Tendencies

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Ric Clayton of No Mercy – World Famous Artist

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Tank

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OZ

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Raven

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Voivod

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Exciter

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Beowülf

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No Mercy

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Metallica

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SLAYER

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Excel

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Cryptic Slaughter

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Amebix

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Exodus

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The Accused

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Void

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Necros

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Discharge

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Bathory

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Nausea

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Celtic Frost

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DRI

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Anthrax

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Possessed

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20 Comments

20 Comments

  1. Jeremy Kitchen

    June 7, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    This dude cannot tell us enough about his time in the Suicidals.

  2. Dave LuckyLacquers

    May 23, 2017 at 8:46 am

    More like how Metal found punk, even Slayer and the SOD guys admit to that. And wy isn’t Die Kreuzen featured above?. They only heavily influenced the bands and techniques of a few of those bands and many more not even listed, from VoiVod all the way to Soundgarden.

  3. Andy Ford

    May 22, 2017 at 11:00 am

    I am old Ruthie’s Rat. The best crossover show I saw there was in 86 GBH, The CEO-mags, Blast, No Mercy and Sacrilege bc!

  4. Matthias Vega Gálvez-Rivas

    May 18, 2017 at 1:15 am

    Maya Riot

  5. Diego Durán

    May 17, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    Thank you for sharing those amazing histories!

  6. Spencer Ripper Korgoth

    May 17, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    Stig C Miller

  7. Jose Reyes Alvarado

    May 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Speed metal punx!

  8. Ram Puga

    May 17, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Mike Agostini Tom Wyka this why I am me. jajaja

  9. Toots McGee

    May 17, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Forward Into Battle by the English Dogs is easily one of the best metal/punk records ever.

  10. I Know Now Why You Cry

    May 17, 2017 at 10:09 am

    And now we have metalcore

  11. Joey Castañeda

    May 17, 2017 at 9:24 am

    Metal heads found punk when punks found metal as well.

  12. Morgana Spikes

    May 17, 2017 at 9:13 am

    The videos are not playable for some reason. Has anyone else got the same problem?

  13. Mathias Crandall

    May 17, 2017 at 8:21 am

    I was at that show!! Nuns have no fun

  14. Tony Autoharp

    May 17, 2017 at 7:27 am

    WHERE ARE THE PLASMATICS?! The Plasmatics combined punk, hardcore, and Metal a good two years before any of these groups. Richie Stotts and Wes Beech in particular, never get the credit they richly deserve.

  15. Chris Owen

    May 17, 2017 at 6:54 am

    Should have told em not to. :^)

  16. Victor Santos

    May 17, 2017 at 6:06 am

    Paulo Simões

  17. Human

    May 17, 2017 at 4:47 am

    Pst.. your videos are toast.

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